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Who make sky?

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3:34 am
December 14, 2010


zoe somebody

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And that's where humanity made it's first big mistake.

So this is just a forum post to see what's a happening with the new theme I had to make for the forum. Still a ways to go before this thing would be considered done and tasteful but I think this is a good start.

3:35 am
December 14, 2010


zoe somebody

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What are you stupid? God made the sky.

Sheesh (first troll comment).

3:35 am
December 14, 2010


zoe somebody

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Really now would you stop arguing with yourself?Yell

12:41 am
December 20, 2010


zoe somebody

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I started this topic mainly to just the forum and finish skinning the fourm. However, after exchanging comments with THE ADAM on the Episode 4 podcast "Are We Alone? Aliens." where I mentioned the quote "Who make sky?" from the Cartoon History of the Universe I thought to turn this into a real forum topic.

THE ADAM asserts that there is a god (type/religion unspecified).

I don't believe in a god.

In the cartoon history of the universe a character looks to the sky and thinks, "Sky is beautiful." Up until that point everything had been going pretty well for humans. Then the same character in the next frame asks, "Who make sky?" And this is where things pretty much started going downhill for humanity.

As much as people make claims that religion is a positive force in the world I'm of the school of folks who think that religion is a wholly manufactured human concept  and that the end result of asking metaphysical questions as "Why the universe / Who made the universe" is the holding back of human progress and enlightened rational creatures by centuries if not millenia when all is said and done.

So in the end I guess this post is the first inevitable discussion about the existence of god, the ramifications of that belief, and probably a whole lot of hurt feelings, abusive language, and general insults. But I hope that The Leaguers are capable of engaging in these types of controversial discussions without devolving into such schenanigans. Because what the world needs more than a messiah is some rational discourse.

8:02 pm
February 14, 2011


The Adam

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Here's some food for thought. Let us pretend for a minute that man never "conceived" of God. Let us then assume, for the same of discussion, that he still ended up on this path. And let us, for just a moment, believe that religion was never the butt of any wars as it never conglomerated. Let us say this occured and the world somehow existed.

Then let us address humans in this world. For the world to have evolved to the stage we are at now, we had to be curious as a species in some degree. In this, we discover instances of situations and circumstances we eventually designate as "Science". In our search of "Science", and a means to express it in human terms, we ask several questions.

These questions are "Who","What",Where","When", "How", and "why". As humans, in a world where God never existed, we exist as a paradox. In this world, man has decided to sit still for centuries by either NOT asking the question of Why (then where did they get philosophy) or sitting on the question as it couldn't be answered.

I believe the conundrum here lies in the fact that you miss this important bit of information. This world cannot exists. Given that man has several questions they do not have answers for, we come up with one and whittle it down to find a much more acceptible and observable answer. Given all of that, God couldn't have NOT existed, and you can at least see the reasons for the concept of such things. Whether you believe in a God or not, generations and generations of humans who are designed biologically to construct meaning from our world would infact stop seeking an answer for a question that sits upon their minds and lips.

Why?

Whether you believe in God or not, any answer you give me or others will be just as valid. Why is something you cannot have answered no matter how often you ask, unless there is something with intention to answer. At the end of the day, when the lights go out, when you breathe the final breathe, this might very well be that ever present nudge on your core. God or not, I find the question VERY intriguing and enough to drive searches through the other questions of discovery. -The Adam



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